Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Let's Put This To Bed Once And For All

Straight from the republican god's own mouth.


[h/t to Angry Bear for the video.]

There is no reason for Social Security to be part of any deficit or debt discussion.  End of topic!

78 comments:

  1. End of topic? But it's a great topic. Social Security recipients don't have billions of dollars with which to purchase politicians, so they make an excellent scapegoat.

    Even better, when politicians start demagoging about "Entitlement Reform!" millions of inbreds will go "Ugh! Duh yeah, that's right!"

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    1. That's right Tom. Those millions of inbreds who would be out in the street waiting in breadlines if it was not for SS.

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  2. Right on target.. thanks for this Jerry..!!

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  3. Exactly right. What makes millions of people entitled is the fact they've paid for the benefits due them.

    If you watch C-SPAN long enough I'm sure you'll see, as I have, Sens. John Kyl, Rand Paul and others say "entitlements" in a sneering/jeering way that makes them seem like something smelly and slimy wiped up from way back underneath the kitchen sink in an old house. To them and others like them, "reform" means weaken, make undependable, shatter people's trust, then privatize — a.k.a. destroy.

    Amazingly, these political sociopaths see themselves as loyal disciple of St. Ronald. What irony.

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  4. I paid for it and am still paying for my Medicare. You're damn right that I am entitled to it!

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  6. Stupid is as stupid does. And YOU are the epitome of stupid.

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  7. Stupid for quoting Reagan? You might have a point there!

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  8. Then, Critter, do you disagree with Obama's claim that Social Security is part of the debt/budget, and the first thing that should be cut?

    Why else would he threaten to withhold social security checks whenever discussions about not raising the debt ceiling come up?

    If he considered it to be not part of the debt/budget/deficit problem, he'd never mention that, would he?

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  9. I don't recall Obama saying that SS is the "first thing that should be cut". How about a source for that statement.

    I do not agree with Obama including SS in any budget or debt discussions. SS payments do not affect the budget, the debt, or the deficit. They cannot by law. It is entirely funded by employee/employer contributions.

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  10. This is very common knowledge, Jerry. A major headline that was everywhere

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/170557-labor-angered-by-obamas-willingness-to-cut-social-security-

    http://blog.syracuse.com/opinion/2013/01/obamas_hint_that_social_securi.html

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=169390812

    Just a few of many. The last one, from NPR and the Associated Press, contains this damning discussion:

    "President Barack Obama's blanket statement Monday that "Social Security checks and veterans benefits will be delayed" if Congress doesn't raise the debt limit..."

    Yes, just some of countless places quoting Obama's direct statement, his own words, that Social Security is very much a part of the debt/budget/deficit discussion, and is so fragile/volatile that it is on the top of the stack as the first to go if there's a crunch.

    So what is going on here? Are your budget priorities very different from Obama's in this case? Perhaps more like the Republicans, in this case, who bury SS way down in this "stack" of things being the first to go in some sort of crunch like this?

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  11. Also from just a couple of weeks ago,

    Also from NPR and the AP:

    "
    Obama: Debt Limit Fight Imperils Elderly's Checks

    by The Associated Press
    January 14, 2013 5:53 PM

    "WASHINGTON (AP) — Declaring "we are not a deadbeat nation," President Obama warned on Monday that Social Security checks and veterans' benefits will be delayed if congressional Republicans fail to increase the government's borrowing authority in a looming showdown over the nation's debt and spending."

    How can we "put it to bed", when the most powerful liberal of them all, the President of the US is pulling it out of bed, making it drink Red Bull, and ordering it to dance all night in the town square?

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  12. I am we'll aware that Obama has discussed SS cuts. My question dealt with your statement that he says it is the "first thing" that should be cut.

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  13. In his statements, Obama names just two things to cut right away. Social security is the "first thing" listed. Read his statements. It is clear that he considers this as part of the budget, and the most expendible part. The first to go.

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  14. I didn't see that in any of the references you listed.

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  15. Read again. Want me to re post the comments? Where he lists only two things to cut, and what the "first thing" on this short list is?

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  16. No, its not that important. If he puts it first in a list, it may or may not mean he thinks it is the most important item. It doesn't really matter. I think he is wrong to include SS in any budget discussions or cuts. But then I don't expect to agree with everything he says or does anyway. I am sure that I agree with more things that he will do, than I would have agreed with things Romney would have done if he had been elected...and that is the choice we had.

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  17. So yeah, here we have Ronald "Lockbox" Reagan... and Barack "Throw SS under the bus first if a loud sound startles him" Obama.

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  18. That does appear to be the case, dmarks.

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  19. Yeah... doubt that cutting the drone program is high on his list.

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  20. dmarks doesn't get it. Obama is talking about the first checks that need to go out as government obligations. He's sounding a warning, obviously to help mobilize public pressure on Republicans to stop obstructing, compromise, meet obligations and come up with a workable budget. Oh yes, and avoid the sequester stupidity, which is the last thing the economy needs.

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  21. So, I will ask Jerry: Do you support the idea of threatening to throw Social Security under the bus as the very first thing to do when faced with a major budget crisis, as Obama has promised again and again to do.... in order to play mere political one-upsmanship and pressure games? The games S.W. describes? Isn't this irresponsible, deceptive, and rather dangerous: i.e. how many seniors would die in poverty due to cut-off funds before Obama said "Enough, I made my point"?

    Would it be 1? 10? More? All due to his own decision to cut off finds?

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  22. Video evidence does not stop Republicans from rewriting history. Reagan never said what he said in that video. He also never said anything about the wealthy paying their fair share.

    S.W. Anderson: dmarks doesn't get it. Obama is... sounding a warning...

    No, dmarks does not get it. Obama has never "threatened". He is warning what will happen due to Republican obstruction. And the Republicans want to cut SS MORE, or at least as much as Obama, so this talk of "throwing under the bus" in regards to Obama ONLY is pure dmarks BS.

    Regarding cutting SS: Obama is wrong. The Republicans are wrong. Liberal Democrats are right. Obama isn't a liberal Democrat (another fact dmarks does not get).

    dmarks: Would it be 1? 10? More? All due to his own decision to cut off funds?

    Zero. Obama has never suggested cutting off funds. He warns when Republican obstruction may lead to checks being DELAYED.

    On another subject, it appears that dmarks' efforts to have my blog disabled by Google have failed. Or maybe they just haven't gotten around to it yet.

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  41. WD lied. Obama did indeed promise to cut SS payments immediately if the budget impasse came to happen. It was his promise, not that of the Republicans. It was his own choice to promise this. And yes he is a leftist, a liberal Democratic President. As measured from the political center.

    As for WD's blog and comments, I don't care what he does on other blogs. But I cut him off from my blog and sent all his comments to the spam filter due to gratuitous profanity and his massive cutting and pasting of spams (not unlike the several comments above) to create dozens of spam comments. Something I do to any spammer, left... right... or nonideological.

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    1. Darks,
      How about a reference to Obama'a actual statement where he makes that promise.

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  42. Crittershit you are full of yourself.

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  43. dmarks lied (and continues to lie). I submitted ZERO comments to his blog that contained profanity (absolutely none). I commented on his blog (a comment that was critical of his post, but ON TOPIC) and he called my comment "spam" and deleted it.

    I had previously commented on his blog and he allowed those comments to stand, so I was somewhat surprised when he deleted what I wrote and lied about my comment being "spam". After he lied about me "spamming" him, I did submit a couple of comments that contained links to male enhancement websites. Why? Because he clearly had NO IDEA what real spam looked like. I decided to be helpful and provide him with some examples (and I was POed about him deleting my comments and LYING about what I said).

    I say "somewhat surprised" because, after thinking about it, I realized he deleted my comments because he was following the lead of Will Hart, who banned me from his blog (for disagreeing with him to much). dmarks is lying about me swearing in my comments I submitted to his blog because THAT IS WHAT DMARKS DOES. See my post on the subject here. This is a post where I document dmarks' lies. dmarks will continue slandering me on other blogs, but I have documented exactly what happened on my blog (read my post to get my side before believing dmarks' lies).

    dmarks will not be able to link to any statement by President Obama "threatens" to cut SS because no such statement exists. This is just another example of dmarks lying.

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  44. Your president eats shit

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  45. Have you kissed Shaw's ass yet today?

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  46. Hey Anon. Do you still masturbate on your mother's picture, or have you switched to your brother?

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    1. No, but I'd bet that you do,

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  47. Lol, good try. But NO cigar

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  48. I love your beautiful blog I really liked your article as it is very interesting to read thank you.

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  49. Jerry, are you gone forever? I miss what you have to say.

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  50. Thank you, Green Eagle. Only time will tell.

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  51. Why would anyone miss your bull shit?

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  52. Well, George, you are here so you won't miss it. You even went to the effort to comment. That is more than most visitors do. Thanks for the support.

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  53. This blog is so full of shit that the flys wont even land here

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    1. But you will, Anonymous. That says much more about you than it does about my blog.

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  54. Why does George Zimmerman have internet access? Right now he's in jail and will soon be convicted of murder (hopefully). Anyway, Google Plus' TOS says impersonation of another is against their rules (I'm not going to bother looking it up and linking to the appropriate page, but I remember reading that provision when I signed up). It looks like "George Zimmerman" is breaking the Google Plus TOS and his account should be terminated.

    Anyway, I'm in agreement with Green Eagle in missing what Jerry has to say (here on his awesome blog). He's still commenting on the blogs of others. Have you not encountered him elsewhere GE?

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  55. Free gorge Zimmerman and jail the Black Panthers.....

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  56. If Blacks realized that welfare, food stamps and other "freebies" were keeping them under the government's thumb (slaves to government rules and regulations) and truly still in poverty - maybe they would reverse course. In reality they are kept in poorly maintained and unsafe government housing, attend the bottom of the barrel schools, eat food that's not good, i.e., high in carbohydrates and bad cholesterol stuff, and they have parents who can't help them achieve because they themselves grew up under the same conditions.

    Yes, they do fall prey to all the promises of great freebies coming their way - so yes they are going to vote for the people who make these promises. They don't realize that nothing is free - everything comes at a price. Taxpayers pay the price in higher taxes and the poor pay the price of continued slavery and poverty with no way out.

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  57. The more comments of your that I read the more I think that you are a freaken idiot.

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    1. So why do you keep reading my comments?

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  58. I don’t know about any of you folks here, but I sure know that I am sick as hell from hearing all that BULLSHIT form Blacks, African Americans, Negroes, or whatever they want to be called these days. Anyone who says I owe them an apology can kiss my white ass. My Great Grandfather was part of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg where they had 98% battle casualties, and held off 3 full armies as a regiment sized unit. And he didn’t own any slaves, nor did anyone else in my familily or for that fact not did anyone else in this country for the past 200 years. So don't tell me I owe you shit.

    Oh and it's not my fault that Africans sold off family members into slavery, a lot like a lot of countries are doing to their daughters and sons now, EXCEPT, they're being sold into Human Trafficking. Yes, thought it’s evry sad, very very sad, it was not my fault and frankly I don’t give a shit. I’m sick as hell over the unfair firing of Paula Deen, And all the Bullshit that has followed it and the unfair things that have been done to her since. Paula Deen has been targeted by the same people who di the exact same thing to Whits as what they say she has done to blacks. if not all of our large cities today. She was fired by the Food Network for admitting to using the word Nigger.

    But these same people who are going after Paula Deen would slobber all over themselves in telling you how Tupac was such a poet. Hell they are studying his lyrics in Universities in California. Why don't we say what is really going on here, there is a war against the White Race, and I promise you that these races that are replacing the White Race will not be as kind to White People as White People have been to them.
    It’s time to live in the NOW and not in the past. We will never have a constructive conversation on race in America until Blacks choose to give up their victimhood and take responsibility for their own self made problems. They have had every opportunity to pull themselves up as a people over the last 50 yrs. They have been given more opportunities than Whites or any other race has been given in the past 25 or so years. Few have taken advantage and even less have given up on their self destructive excuses for not succeeding at an even higher rate. They seem bent on self destruction and they are tearing America down in the process. WE need to stand up tot heir threats..and STOP taking care of them every time they make a threat to riot or boycott
    So to my fellow bloggers read your fucking history.
    I don’t give a Rats Ass what the PROGRESSIVES - SOCIALISTS - COMMUNISTS - LEFT-WING RADICALS , say! They want people to be offended, stir up a bunch of race talk all over the radio dials, the TV, and the News papers, and take everyone's attention away from the biggest presidential scandals in modern history. Plus, they wouldn’t know a fact if it hit them in the face.
    Political correctness has gone mad in this country. It wasn't too many years ago that every other word out of Richard Pryor's mouth was a vulgarity about race. No one really cared. Well, except for the morons who wanted to personalize it rather than accept it as humor. I don't know Paula Deen from a hole in the wall but I know that she is being treating unfairly, and if the shoe was on the other foot things would be very different.

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  59. It would be interesting to hear what Food Network executives have uttered in their lifetimes. You know, the ones who fired her. Or, the person who worked there for five years and then decided to file a lawsuit after being "abused" for so long. Ahem. How often has that person used racial slurs? Has she been deposed of this question? People should be forgiven for their small-minded words and encouraged to grow from those perceptions. I'm not taking Paul Deen's side, but I have never seen her as anything other than a heartfelt, caring person.
    Far more damage has been done by black rappers and entertainers who used the infamous "n-word" to create a "racial" identity for too many of their foolish young people to follow. Ten million Paula Deens could not do nearly as much damage to that "race" as they did.
    Oh and one more thing, Al and Jesse, just love this type of shit, they want a race war. Couple of false prophets and puppets to Satan.

    FYI-I'm a Veteran, Red, White, and Blue. I have paid my dues and I believe in calling it like it is. And I don’t need any of this crap in my life,

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  60. Well, for someone who doesn't "need any of this crap in [his] life", you sure spend a lot of time bitching and moaning about it, unless this is just a cut and paste job that you do around the Internet.

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  61. As are the idiots like YOU

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  62. Malcolm Bondon from that POS blog called Progressive Soup, really has a real chip on his black shoulder. Until all whites are slaves people like his Great Grandfathers Grandfather he will never stop crying, and bitching. It's really sad.
    I don't know about the rest of you, but I am just NOT feeling any of the white guilt yet. Wake me up when I do.
    We should remind our first mulatto president about that, he might look into that. Opps, I forgot, he does just that every day.

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  63. If Obama were white, he would be Joseph Stalin's grandson.

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  65. "Here are some poll topics for your simple minder readers.."

    Like you? Or do you just comment without reading?

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  66. Obama said that Rachel the liar could have been his Mother!

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  67. Hey JC, you cannot be aware that WD lied when he claimed I offered an apology to him. He deleted my real comment, then deleted his own comments claiming I did. But you go ahead and protect the liar. Just makes you an ass also. You must enjoy being an idiot dupe for liars. Figures.

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  68. Now he claims it was a joke! Nice to know you enjoy being an idiot dupe. No wonder you call your own blog CRAP!

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  69. Steve is lying. I did delete his "real" comment (because he is banned from my blog), but I did not delete my joke comment about him "apologizing". See here a direct link to my joke comment that Steve says I deleted... presumably to cover up my "lie". What a dummy!

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